On this episode I welcome Dr. Jessica Steier, a public-health expert, and Dr. Andrea Love, an immunology expert. They are the hosts of Unbiased Science, a podcast devoted to objective, critical appraisal of available evidence on health-related topics relevant to listeners’ daily lives. We discuss the following:

• What could have been done differently in this pandemic
• The difference between misinformation and disinformation
• What’s next in this pandemic
• Why debunking information is so difficult as science-educators
• What it means when a pandemic becomes endemic