On this episode I welcome certified lactation counselor Melissa of @pump_momma_pump on Instagram and we discuss common misconceptions when it comes to pumping.

1. Pumping not being considered breastfeeding–it is!
2. You are the only one doing it—it’s common!
3. It’s not a choice—it is a choice!
4. It’s not as healthy as nursing or inferior to milk—it’s not!
5. Can’t get bonding experience—FALSE
6. It’s not sustainable—it is sustainable!
7. Pumping can be flexible—this is correct if nursing also, but when exclusively pumping, you have to pump.
8. It’s a lot harder than nursing—get into a rhythm.
9. Freezer stash—you don’t need a huge one!
10. You’re failing if supplement with formula—you aren’t!

00;00;08;22 – 00;00;30;08

Dr. Mona

Welcome to this week’s episode. I am so excited to welcome Melissa Guerriero, who is a certified lactation counselor and founder of the Instagram page pump mama pump. I’m going to be adding that to my show notes, and she is here to talk to me about the ten most common mistakes or misconceptions when you are pumping. Thank you so much for joining me, Melissa.

 

00;00;30;10 – 00;00;32;18

Melissa Guerriero

Hey, thanks for having me. I’m excited to be here.

 

00;00;32;25 – 00;00;50;00

Dr. Mona

I’m so excited that I found you on social. For me, it’s because I don’t think there’s a lot of education about pumping for people who are lactating. So I really appreciate the stuff that you’re putting out there. Tell me more about why you became a lactation counselor and why you started pump mama pump.

 

00;00;50;02 – 00;01;19;23

Melissa Guerriero

Certainly. Boy, are you right about that. So my first baby was born a month early, which landed him in the NICU. So they got me started exclusive pumping. I didn’t even know it was a thing before that. I just always assumed I’d nurse. And then it worked so well for my family. I went on to choose to exclusively pump for my second babies, so I had two exclusive pumping journeys, about 22 months total of pumping.

 

00;01;19;26 – 00;01;33;09

Melissa Guerriero

And then I started pump momma pump between my babies to be who I needed. When I got started, I needed that education, that motivation and that support that really wasn’t out there for exclusive pumping moms.

 

00;01;33;11 – 00;01;58;25

Dr. Mona

And I appreciate this. So I am actually getting my lactation consultant license. I’m working on the credentialing. And one thing we don’t get enough training on in that training is pumping. I mean, we obviously know the basics, but I need to have someone like you who is really trained on pumping because there’s an art to it. You know, there’s something not even just the physical, but the emotional, journey that a mother goes through when they’re exclusively pumping breastfeeding.

 

00;01;58;25 – 00;02;24;21

Dr. Mona

But it’s really different. You know, I think you know this. I don’t know if you knew my birth through, but I did exclusive pumping for about two weeks. And then for me, I decided to do formula. And that was a decision that was so personal to me. But I think what mothers need more of is that support, like you said, from people like you, resources like your page and your, you know, classes and courses and things like this to really help them, support them physically and emotionally through this journey.

 

00;02;24;21 – 00;02;28;16

Dr. Mona

So thank you so much for joining me, because I think what you’re doing is phenomenal.

 

00;02;28;19 – 00;02;29;11

Melissa Guerriero

Oh thank you.

 

00;02;29;17 – 00;02;47;04

Dr. Mona

Yeah. So we chose to talk about the top ten mistakes or misconceptions on pumping. And so I wanted to kind of ask your opinion because of your experience and also how you help other lactating people. What have you seen maybe that we can do differently or things that you should consider when starting your pumping journey and continuing it?

 

00;02;47;07 – 00;03;15;10

Melissa Guerriero

All right. Let’s start with number one big misconception about pumping is that it’s not breastfeeding. Moms will get questions when people see them feeding their baby with a bottle. Hey, why aren’t you breastfeeding? And you know it can. Like you said, it can be such a personal decision and there might be a lot of trauma surrounding that. And, you know, they might fumble over words and feel a lot of guilt explaining all they have.

 

00;03;15;10 – 00;03;42;10

Melissa Guerriero

They’re forced to exclusively pump. And you know, it’s not formula, I swear. And there’s a lot of guilt sounding like guilt surrounding formula, but there’s also a lot of guilt surrounding pumping. Totally. And I just want mamas to know that exclusive pumping is breastfeeding. It’s just not nursing and just practicing that phrase. When your pediatrician asks you if you’re breastfeeding, you can confidently say, yes, I’m feeding my baby bottle fed breast milk.

 

00;03;42;10 – 00;03;43;19

Melissa Guerriero

I’m breastfeeding.

 

00;03;43;21 – 00;04;03;11

Dr. Mona

Oh, you’re so right, though. And like you said, beautifully. Like there’s so much judgment on every way that we feed our baby, whether a mom is nursing, whether they’re doing exclusive pumping and whether they’re formula feeding, whether they’re mixing. I mean, it’s just like it never ends. And I love that one. That is a great, important one. And I obviously, as a pediatrician, completely agree that it is breast feeding.

 

00;04;03;14 – 00;04;05;07

Dr. Mona

What would be number two for you.

 

00;04;05;09 – 00;04;29;23

Melissa Guerriero

Two is that people think they’re the only one doing it. I mean, I was there, I didn’t know it was a thing. I thought I was the only one doing it, that no one else had it that way. And I just want people to know that they are not alone. The more you follow exclusive pumping pages on Instagram or perhaps join groups on Facebook, you quickly realize that you are definitely not alone.

 

00;04;29;26 – 00;04;36;16

Melissa Guerriero

And it’s much easier than you think to find support and people who’ve been there and can help you in your own journey.

 

00;04;36;18 – 00;04;55;02

Dr. Mona

Oh, and I imagine, like anything that we do in motherhood, when you know, there’s other people going through that similar experience, it can, like you said, add for that emotional support that is so needed. In those first few months and obviously just throughout motherhood. So I completely agree with that one because I’ve seen that and experienced that myself so far.

 

00;04;55;02 – 00;05;07;14

Dr. Mona

These are just, already so empowering things I love it. I was that was the point of this episode, is that not only the nitty gritty things that will maybe go into, but more so just the overall feelings of pumping. So these two are already so important.

 

00;05;07;14 – 00;05;32;15

Melissa Guerriero

Thank you. Yeah. Speaking about empowering, the third one is that people think it’s not a choice. Because they might not have gotten that nursing relationship that they just assumed they would have. And people feel a lot of guilt about that when really what they’re feeling is grief. You’re able to mourn the expectations of that relationship, but then, you know, feel your feelings.

 

00;05;32;15 – 00;05;55;20

Melissa Guerriero

Please mourn those expectations. But then I want mamas to be empowered by their choice to exclusively pump, because that is a choice. You could formula feed. And if you make the choice to exclusively pump, or the choice to supplement, or the choice to formula feed, I want moms to feel empowered by whatever feeding choice they make, and they want.

 

00;05;55;20 – 00;05;59;07

Melissa Guerriero

I want feeding your baby to be a positive experience.

 

00;05;59;09 – 00;06;10;02

Dr. Mona

Did you find with your children, especially your first child, that you experienced that sort of, commentary that, oh, why didn’t you do this? Or, you know, that sort of, judgment that we get as moms?

 

00;06;10;05 – 00;06;36;00

Melissa Guerriero

Oh, yes. Because you don’t, people don’t understand exclusive pumping, especially like one generation older. Because it just wasn’t the thing. And along with that, you know, I did make the choice to do it with my first son after having nursing not be an option anymore. But then I also want people to realize that it can be a choice, even if Baby Latch is perfectly fine with my second baby.

 

00;06;36;02 – 00;06;56;22

Melissa Guerriero

You know, I saw a lactation consultant in the hospital and she latched just fine. But I know that I like exclusive pumping and it works well for my family, so it was a choice to do it with my second baby. And I want people to know that whether it’s their second choice, third choice, first choice, whatever, I want them to be empowered by that.

 

00;06;56;25 – 00;07;15;01

Dr. Mona

Oh, that’s a great way to put it. And this is, again, so great because you’re empowering people listening. And that’s what I want from this episode, that it’s our choice, it’s our control. And whatever we’re choosing is the right thing. And we need more of this messaging across the social media. And, you know, your town, obviously it’s one of those accounts that truly does that.

 

00;07;15;01 – 00;07;31;19

Dr. Mona

So again, thank you, because I just feel as a pediatrician who came on the social media space in the last few years, I just felt like we don’t get a lot of that sometimes there is a lot of shaming, even from popular social media accounts. So it really needs to be us who says, you know what, let’s break this all down.

 

00;07;31;19 – 00;07;47;23

Dr. Mona

Let’s remove the the guilt, the shame and everything that’s associated with it, because that is how we’re going to succeed more. You know, all that stuff doesn’t help us when we’re trying to reach our goals. So we need supportive people like you and a supportive community that is so key. What would be the next one?

 

00;07;47;26 – 00;08;13;26

Melissa Guerriero

Number four is that it’s not as healthy for baby as nursing. Some people think that pumped milk is somehow inferior than, nursed milk directly from the breast. And one of these things that has surfaced lately with what’s been going on with the pandemic is antibodies. Yeah. And there is research, more and more research every day showing all the ways mom can start to make antibodies in her breast milk.

 

00;08;14;01 – 00;08;40;17

Melissa Guerriero

That’s not just backwash from a nursing child. Yeah. So if I’m exposed to the same germs my baby is, and I sample those germs from baby’s skin through touch and kiss, my body will actually begin to make those antibodies through my milk and help baby fight off viruses, help babies stay healthy just like a nursing baby would, and the breast milk otherwise is completely the same.

 

00;08;40;17 – 00;08;52;00

Melissa Guerriero

It has those white blood cells. It has all the really, really good stuff to help keep your baby growing and keep your baby healthy. Just like milk nursed from the breast would.

 

00;08;52;03 – 00;08;54;09

Dr. Mona

And what would be number five?

 

00;08;54;11 – 00;09;18;01

Melissa Guerriero

Number five is do you think they can’t get a bonding experience like someone who nurses directly at the breast would get? And let me tell you, if you’ve ever had a baby, there are so many ways to bond with your baby, especially over feeding. Yeah. Bottle feed. You know, you could bottle feed and bond while you’re feeding with baby.

 

00;09;18;01 – 00;09;43;21

Melissa Guerriero

Just like you can bond while nursing directly at the breast. But also you could still do skin to skin, eye contact, playing with babies, and everyone who gets to feed your baby, whether that’s a partner or a family member, also gets that really valuable bonding experience over feeding. And it’s not just the mom who gets that. So I think that’s really quite beneficial to everyone in the family.

 

00;09;43;23 – 00;10;06;24

Dr. Mona

Oh, I am so tired of that misconception too. And I love that you brought that one up, because I just feel like you’re right. There’s so much more to infant development than I think you hear about. In terms of, oh, well, breast nursing means that you are going to have that bond, co-sleeping. I mean, there’s so many different things about attachment, and we could go into a whole episode about what is secure attachment versus attachment theory.

 

00;10;06;24 – 00;10;34;28

Dr. Mona

And parenting is totally different. But yeah, I mean, I hear it all the time. And as someone who was separated from her child for about two weeks because of complications and then also bottle fed, oh my gosh, eight, 19 months out, this kid is obsessed with me as I am obsessed with him. And also you brought it up perfectly the connection that he’s created with my husband, you know, my husband, who also did some bottle feeds, I ended up doing most of them because I like that sort of, you know, holding close cuddles like you get.

 

00;10;35;05 – 00;10;48;20

Dr. Mona

But you’re right that you are going to bond with your child in so many different ways, whether it’s with a bottle, whether it’s after feedings, hello, there’s playtime, there’s cuddle times that happen besides feeding. So I think this is such an important one. Thank you for clarifying that one.

 

00;10;48;22 – 00;11;27;17

Melissa Guerriero

Of course the next one. And people get this from so many different sources and it’s just not always true. Number six, it’s not sustainable. And I’m actually talking about exclusive pumping. I know I keep coming back to that because that is my specialty. That’s what I did. But pumping in general, not being sustainable with regular color milk removal, whether you’re nursing regularly on demand or whether you have a really great pumping schedule and you stick with that schedule and you pump regularly, it can absolutely be sustainable.

 

00;11;27;20 – 00;11;59;05

Melissa Guerriero

There’s certain things you have to keep in mind, like changing your valves so all pumps have a valve. Sometimes they look different for the different brands of pump, but the valve actually controls the suction. Yeah, the pump motor does its job. But when you’re replacing your pump parts in the recommended time frame. So a valve, for example, an exclusive pump or that pumps, you know, 7 or 8 times a day would want to replace their valve, monthly, where an occasional pumper might want to replace their valve every three months.

 

00;11;59;07 – 00;12;23;17

Melissa Guerriero

And that just keeps your supplies in working order, keeps your pump in working order and properly fitting flange sizes. I do flange fittings so often because moms just really need help finding a properly fitting flange. So there’s so many variables that help exclusive pumping. Yes, be sustainable and you can do it for pretty much as many months as your body lets you.

 

00;12;23;18 – 00;12;41;14

Melissa Guerriero

Now there are some factors like, the return of your period or perhaps, getting pregnant with an additional child that could affect your hormones and things without our control that might affect your milk output. But yes, it can be sustainable.

 

00;12;41;16 – 00;12;45;10

Dr. Mona

How long did you do exclusive pumping with your first child?

 

00;12;45;12 – 00;12;54;14

Melissa Guerriero

My first child was ten and a half months. Awesome. And my second child was 14 months. With really, really slow weaning at the end.

 

00;12;54;17 – 00;13;07;05

Dr. Mona

I see, I see now that’s a really great point. So far what we’ve gone through, I think six of them. Wow, this is so great. And I know it’s going to really empower so many people listening. Let’s talk about this. Not for now.

 

00;13;07;08 – 00;13;10;13

Melissa Guerriero

Okay. Oh, they’re not in actually. Well, you’re not ordered.

 

00;13;10;13 – 00;13;18;18

Dr. Mona

Yes. You’re not in order. Sorry. I should say that I apologize. They’re not an order of importance. I agree with that. More so the next four let’s. Yeah, yeah.

 

00;13;18;20 – 00;13;45;17

Melissa Guerriero

So this one is not meant to cause any shame or guilt, but there is a misconception that pumping can be really flexible. Then you can do it whenever you want. And for a mother who exclusively breastfeeds through nursing, that’s so true. You can pump, once a day. You can pump when you return to work. You can not pump at all and just nurse directly from the breast.

 

00;13;45;19 – 00;14;13;17

Melissa Guerriero

But for exclusive pumping mothers, that’s mothers who don’t nurse. They don’t latch, baby. They’re just pumping schedule. And regular milk removal is so important. Not only is important for your supply, but it’s also really important for your breasts. When you have them go really, really long without being emptied, you leave them susceptible to pressure building from the inside, which can lead to clogged ducts or even mastitis.

 

00;14;13;19 – 00;14;22;13

Melissa Guerriero

So you can’t just stop and start whenever you want. It does take a certain level of commitment to stick to a schedule.

 

00;14;22;16 – 00;14;31;07

Dr. Mona

And that schedule just really depends on the production of a mother’s breast milk, what age of the baby in terms of their feeding as well. Right.

 

00;14;31;09 – 00;14;32;28

Melissa Guerriero

Absolutely.

 

00;14;33;00 – 00;14;50;01

Dr. Mona

Yeah. So I think one of the things I often get asked is like you know parents when they start out obviously when you’re first starting out nursing, breastfeeding, formula feeding, doing a series of pumping the feedings are more common. Right? I mean, you’re going to have anywhere from 8 to 12. Sometimes cluster feedings are happening and then parents or mothers are like, is this what it’s going to be like?

 

00;14;50;01 – 00;15;05;13

Dr. Mona

I’m like, no, no, no. I promise you, at some point you’re not going to be waking up every three hours, you know, to feed or pump. So it really just is about listening is in the situation, listening to cues and making sure that you’re removing the milk when necessary to avoid those complications. Correct?

 

00;15;05;15 – 00;15;29;08

Melissa Guerriero

Absolutely. And there’s other, other biological factors with mothers who might have an oversupply or varying breast capacity, which is not linked to breast size. So some mothers can actually hold more milk at one time in their breast and therefore pump fewer times a day. And some mothers cannot hold that much milk in their breast at one time, and need to pump a little more often to make that same daily total number.

 

00;15;29;11 – 00;15;47;20

Dr. Mona

Of is so good. Yeah, so good to know. And I think I’ll have you back on, maybe in a few weeks. We’ll do another episode on some tips you have about pumping when we return to work. And maybe we’ll go into more strategies kind of incorporating this a little bit. But this is so great. I know we’re not giving as much of the nitty gritty of pumping in this episode.

 

00;15;47;23 – 00;15;51;01

Dr. Mona

But this is such an important topic. Let’s do number eight.

 

00;15;51;03 – 00;16;16;23

Melissa Guerriero

Number eight. I was the misconception that it’s a lot harder than nursing, and there might be some listeners being like, yeah, it’s a lot harder than nursing. Well, that’s so subjective. I mean, it depends on mama’s lifestyle and preferences, honestly. And taking care of your own mental health and knowing what you need as a mom is so important to help you properly care for your baby.

 

00;16;16;25 – 00;16;42;19

Melissa Guerriero

So me, for example, I liked being on a pumping schedule. I liked how mechanical it was because there’s so much there’s so much unpredictability about pregnancy and childbirth and that newborn phase that I just really liked pumping on schedule and then bottle feeding on demand. Whereas, you know, I’m nursing mother might nurse, like you mentioned, cluster feeding. Oh, that would drive me crazy.

 

00;16;42;21 – 00;17;10;16

Melissa Guerriero

Yeah. That’s just that’s just me. But I have a friend who her baby’s pretty much attached to her all day, and she loves it. To me, that seems harder than pumping. So the misconception here is that you can’t assume what’s hard for one mother is going to be hard for another mother, and having these conversations and learning what you need as a mom is so important to not only care for your body and care for your baby, but care for your mental health too.

 

00;17;10;18 – 00;17;27;15

Dr. Mona

Yeah, and like you said, it’s about learning the options out there. Like you said, you made a choice to do this. It might work for many, many people that this is what they want and they should have the resources, like your education on your page to say, yeah, this actually does work really well. Or maybe I think it doesn’t work, but what can I do to make it work?

 

00;17;27;15 – 00;17;41;08

Dr. Mona

Like I said, physically. Emotionally, like what support do I need to make this actually happen where I don’t have to love every single moment, but that this is something I enjoy and that I can actually, you know, it works with my lifestyle. I love that, I love that perspective so much.

 

00;17;41;11 – 00;18;06;16

Melissa Guerriero

Yes. The next one is, social media just does a number on some moms with this one freezer stash that you need a huge freezer stash. First of all, let me tell you, most of those freezer stashes you see are from mothers with a biological oversupply. And that can be a blessing and a curse. Let me tell you.

 

00;18;06;18 – 00;18;29;28

Melissa Guerriero

If you talk to a mother with an oversupply, it might actually be a burden on them. It’s not always something that you want to have. But I’ll also tell you a secret. I had a freezer stash. Why did I have one? Because I first had to and then chose to supplement with formula, and therefore I could stash away some milk and extend the time period in which I could feed my baby breast milk.

 

00;18;29;28 – 00;18;54;07

Melissa Guerriero

Because I was giving both formula and breast milk. Let me back it up. Just a step about why you don’t need a huge freezer stash. Some people think, okay, I’m going back to work. I need to stash all the milk I can right now to send to daycare. Well, legally in the US. And I know you said you’re going to have me back to talk more about work, and that’s great, because that’s when most people start pumping legally.

 

00;18;54;07 – 00;19;18;14

Melissa Guerriero

In the US, your employer needs to provide you time and space to pump at work. So ideally you’d be pumping on Monday at work what you would send with baby for their caregiver on Tuesday, pumping on Tuesday to send to Wednesday, and so on. But it’s always helpful to have a small freezer stash that if you need to or want to leave baby with a baby sitter, or perhaps for those first few days going back to work.

 

00;19;18;16 – 00;19;29;08

Melissa Guerriero

But these huge, huge freezer stashes that you see on social media can really cause some mothers a lot of guilt that they don’t want. And I just need you to know you don’t need one.

 

00;19;29;11 – 00;19;41;22

Dr. Mona

Yeah, you are so right. It’s almost like when I don’t know, sometimes I feel like when that’s posted, it’s like, hey, look at I don’t know. I’ve always even before I became a mom and I saw people do that. I mean, I haven’t even begun to go through this process. I was like, do we really need to show that?

 

00;19;41;22 – 00;19;59;05

Dr. Mona

Like, what is the purpose of showing that you are overproducing or that, oh my God, now I have to figure out what to do with all of my milk. Like, what purpose does that serve? Like, I don’t know, I never even understood why people share that. And also when you look at it from the other side, as someone who’s trying to create a supply or even thinking, do I need to do this again, you don’t need to do it.

 

00;19;59;05 – 00;20;12;13

Dr. Mona

And overpumping can lead to issues, right? I mean, you don’t want to overdo it where you lead to more problems and overproduction if that’s not what’s needed. So, I completely agree with that. So great. And you had one more, right I do.

 

00;20;12;15 – 00;20;39;09

Melissa Guerriero

Number ten is the misconception that you’re failing if you supplement with formula. And, this is a big one for pumping mothers. And actually all breastfeeding mothers sometimes supplement with formula or completely switching over to formula is a fact of life. I mean, you’re a pediatrician under one years of age. Those are the options for baby right breast milk or formula.

 

00;20;39;11 – 00;21;07;21

Melissa Guerriero

And if a mother is facing low supply or something like that and they need to start giving their baby formula, sometimes they have a lot of guilt associated with that and they feel like they failed their baby somehow. And mama guilt has no place in feeding your baby. It really doesn’t. Doesn’t. I heard this thing online that just stuck with me, and it was a change in mindset from it’s that I only breastfed for blank switching.

 

00;21;07;21 – 00;21;31;21

Melissa Guerriero

That too. I was able to breastfeed for black so fill that in. I was yeah, only I only breastfed for three weeks. Oh mama. But you were able to breastfeed for three weeks. Yeah. No. And that just a little switch of a mindset and, honoring your journey and really being grateful for what your body was able to do and then knowing that formula is formula for a reason.

 

00;21;31;21 – 00;22;00;04

Melissa Guerriero

It is it formulated for baby. And there are so many different choices of formula out there and experts to help you navigate the formula world, to be confident in that choice as well. And the last thing I want you to feel like is that you’re somehow failing your baby. One more thought about that. That really helped me when I began to supplement with formula is I started to think about all the food my baby’s going to eat, starting, you know, around six months.

 

00;22;00;10 – 00;22;23;28

Melissa Guerriero

You eat purees, they’re going to eat broccoli, all sorts of things that I can’t produce with my breast. I just put formula into that category. Yeah. One other thing that my baby’s going to eat that I can’t produce. And to me that really helped kind of group that into all the different things that are going to help nurture your baby, in addition to what you were already able to provide them with your breast milk.

 

00;22;24;00 – 00;22;45;14

Dr. Mona

That is such a great way of looking at it. I mean, that’s exactly what I tell you when you think about just health and bonding. We talked about so many different reasons, why people can feel guilt with exclusive pumping or formula. Everything is all part of this whole big picture of health and nutrition. And it is an additional and you are right that, oh, it is formulated like set for a reason.

 

00;22;45;19 – 00;23;07;03

Dr. Mona

We know breast milk is beneficial, but formula is also a great option and it’s not inferior. It’s like this weird thing that I want to empower people to breastfeed nurse exclusively, pump. But I also want people to be empowered to formula feed because it’s what we need to do for our babies, which is healthy nutrition. I mean, it all comes down to providing food for our babies and all of it is food.

 

00;23;07;03 – 00;23;15;07

Dr. Mona

It’s now, what does mommy want? What does mommy feel like? She has the resources and what does she feel comfortable doing, which can look so different for so many different families?

 

00;23;15;07 – 00;23;37;16

Melissa Guerriero

Can? Yeah, you hit the nail on the head with that one. It really can. And I really want moms to feel confident and empowered with whatever feeding choice they make. And, know that they’re taking care of their baby the best way that they know how. And that one way of feeding does not make you a better mother than someone who feeds a different way.

 

00;23;37;16 – 00;23;58;15

Dr. Mona

Yeah, that inferiority superiority kind of complex that I think, you know, again, we have pitted us against ourselves, you know, we not only just from the guilt that we create, but also how we view others and how it’s viewed on social media. Like you said, it’s become such a problem where we look at things as interior and superior, when it’s truly just different, it’s different experiences, different things.

 

00;23;58;15 – 00;24;17;17

Dr. Mona

But it’s not that you’re better or I’m worse or vice versa, you know? So that’s really important. Thank you so much for joining me. This was so great. Obviously that was an amazing final message. Where can people find you again? Tell me about your social media channel. Anything else you want to, you know, where people can find you and get your support?

 

00;24;17;19 – 00;24;32;28

Melissa Guerriero

Yeah. Thanks for having me. You can find me on Instagram. That’s my main platform at pump. Underscore mama momma underscore pump. So it’s pump mama pump with two underscores and pump mama pump.com.

 

00;24;33;00 – 00;24;53;11

Dr. Mona

I will be attaching all of these to my show notes everyone, because I myself get so much good information from Melissa’s page, which is why I wanted her on my podcast. So make sure you follow her. Like she said, I’ll add it to my show notes and visit her website, and I’ll have to have her on in a few weeks or a month or so to get her, feedback and education on returning to work and pumping.

 

00;24;53;13 – 00;24;55;07

Dr. Mona

Thanks again for joining me, Melissa.

 

00;24;55;09 – 00;24;56;29

Melissa Guerriero

I can’t wait. I’ll talk to you soon.

 

00;24;57;03 – 00;25;12;26

Dr. Mona

Thank you for tuning in for this week’s episode. As always, please leave a review. Share this episode with a friend. Share it on your social media. Make sure to follow me at PedsDocTalk on Instagram and subscribe to my YouTube channel, PedsDocTalk TV. We’ll talk to you soon.