We give disagreements a bad rep, but they actually can be VERY healthy when done correctly. Arguing is often associated with disagreements with yelling and high emotions, but disagreements can provide growth for all those involved. I invited Lynda Cormier-Hanser, a speaker, author, non-profit founder, wife, and mother to discuss:

• Why disagreements are healthy
• What families can learn from disagreements
• How to “argue” in a fair way
• What SHOULD be the desired outcomes from “arguments”

 

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Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And in that moment, the person, if they have escalated emotions, they’re not going to be able to receive the information because they’re very emotional. So I think if we take responsibility and saying, okay, is this something that needs to be addressed in this moment, or is it going to be better for both of us? Does it serve both of us to take a breath and just remove myself from the situation, and then come back and talk about it when we are a little bit more calm and we can actually have a good discourse, rather than argue.

 

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Dr. Mona

Welcome back to the PedsDocTalk Podcast. A podcast that keeps growing because of you and your reviews. So please make sure you leave those reviews and ratings whenever you can. And thank you for being here today. Today’s guest is a returning guest. Her name is Lynda Cormier. She’s a speaker, personal development trainer, business owner, author, nonprofit founder, wife and mother.

 

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Dr. Mona

And she is a second time guest on my podcast. If you have not already, listen to episode 123 on how to Stay Connected to purpose and joy during chaotic times. And she’s coming back to talk with me today about why arguing with family isn’t the worst thing in the world. So thank you so much for joining me again, Lynda.

 

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Lynda Cormier-Hanser

Thank you. I’m so happy to be back.

 

00;01;21;22 – 00;01;29;07

Dr. Mona

So in case people have not, you know, listen to that other episode, tell me more about yourself and why this topic is so important to you.

 

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Lynda Cormier-Hanser

Well, I kind of joke around and I say of all the titles that I have, because I’ve kind of done a lot. I’m 58, but I’ll be 58 this year. So I have had a lot of going on in my career. But the thing that I’m the most proud of is my children, my daughters, my relationship with my family members, including my ex-husband, who I have a great relationship with.

 

00;01;49;12 – 00;02;09;29

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

So I think for me, the most important thing is our relationships in general. And the reason this topic is so near and dear to my heart is because I avoided arguing like the plague for the longest time. But I have found what happens on the other side of that can be really, really rewarding and enriching.

 

00;02;10;01 – 00;02;30;25

Dr. Mona

And I’m glad we’re having this conversation, because I also grew up in a house where my parents didn’t argue in front of me, and I kind of look back and I kind of wish they had more healthy arguments, if you will, because then I kind of grew up thinking that arguing was a bad thing. You know, we get labeled and it’s also there’s a difference between, I think arguing and yelling.

 

00;02;30;25 – 00;02;42;00

Dr. Mona

And, you know, obviously you can have disagreements. Where do you think that came from for you? Like when did you have that moment? Was it in marriage that you were like, hey, this is okay if we don’t agree and let’s look, it’s okay if we argue.

 

00;02;42;02 – 00;03;06;22

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

I think it didn’t really come into play until I got married the second time. My parents, I have the most amazing example of this incredible love. My dad adored my mom and it’s such a beautiful story. She’s from Central America. I just lost her this year. But she’s originally from Central America, from Nicaragua. And my dad was, like, blond hair, blue eyed surfer from Redondo Beach, California.

 

00;03;06;24 – 00;03;35;25

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And their relationship was really, I mean, the most incredible example to me. They did not argue, and I don’t think they didn’t argue intentionally. They really just had a great they had a great marriage. But I was married for 20 years or with my first husband for 20 years total, and we really never argued. And so part of I think that that contributed actually to our divorce, because there were so many things that we had gone through that were left unsaid.

 

00;03;35;25 – 00;04;10;17

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And I just, you know, I have no problem expressing myself if it’s positive. But if it’s negative, I don’t, because I’ve always taught that what you say is like toothpaste. Once you come, it comes out. You can’t put it back in. That’s kind of heart. And up off the counter. And so I never would say anything if I perceived it to be negative, but it really was in my second marriage that I realized and with my children, as they were growing up, that sometimes we were not going to agree and that that was okay to actually have tough conversations.

 

00;04;10;19 – 00;04;21;16

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And that’s what I really mean by arguing. Not like you’re saying, not like yelling knock down, drag out fight, but arguing because we have differences of opinion and what can happen on the other side of that.

 

00;04;21;19 – 00;04;33;14

Dr. Mona

And yeah, what are those benefits that you’ve seen from that realization that arguing isn’t the worst thing in the world, and whether it’s with your partner or your children. How did that benefit you and your relationships?

 

00;04;33;16 – 00;05;10;28

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

I can say unequivocally with all of them that if we’ve endured what I consider an argument or a very difficult conversation, or have differences of opinion, when we get through it, we are closer as a result because we learn more about each other. I know for a fact there’s greater understanding, and I’ve always been, you know, that age old saying, seek first to understand if you are having an argument with somebody and you’re able to minimize the emotional reaction and just really kind of try and listen and hear their perspective.

 

00;05;11;00 – 00;05;41;12

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

A lot of times there’s so much learning that can happen in that place, and, you know, as a mom, I just felt like I can’t have anything negative. Like, I want to be a role model. I want to be a model for all good things. And so what ended up happening and realizing this, I think my daughter was maybe 14 years old, and she’s the one who told me, I know that you live in Disneyland like you want everything to be happy all the time, but that’s not real.

 

00;05;41;15 – 00;05;53;15

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

So it’s okay if we’re not with each other. She really was the one that helped me understand how important it was to have some of those tough conversations.

 

00;05;53;17 – 00;06;06;13

Dr. Mona

Oh, that’s amazing that she was the one that kind of helped you realize that. And you saw some benefits in her as well, right? Meaning this is obviously something that helped her and she got more out of the relationship as well. From you being more open about all this?

 

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Lynda Cormier-Hanser

Yeah, absolutely. The few times, I mean, I’m very, very fortunate, my desired outcome when I had kids, I always wanted that as they grew older. I wanted for all of us to really enjoy each other’s company and choose to hang out with each other, because growing up, I had 27 cousins and it was on Sundays. We always had to get together with family, and so it was a how to and I wanted in my family for it to be a get to that.

 

00;06;33;29 – 00;06;55;22

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

We get to be together and we really to bring out the best of each other and enjoy each other’s company and just have fun together. And what I realize is in that effort, if there was something that threw a monkey wrench into that plan, then I would be like really trying to navigate and manipulate the situation to be happy really fast, like it.

 

00;06;55;25 – 00;07;05;16

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And it didn’t really give anyone space to feel what they were feeling. If I’m trying to move the ship in one dock only and the dock is like Disneyland.

 

00;07;05;18 – 00;07;06;28

Dr. Mona

Yeah.

 

00;07;07;00 – 00;07;35;08

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

So as we were navigating, I got divorced and then remarried. And so all of the ups and downs that comes along with that, there is a lot of room to have disagreements and to have arguments and not know what the right thing is to do when and how and all of that. It was such an important moment, and it was really because of my children that I learned about this pinecone, that the only way that it releases new seeds is if it goes through a fire.

 

00;07;35;08 – 00;07;58;20

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And so in California, we have a lot of fires and it’s really devastating. And in the same time I learned about that. There are the specific pine cone that only in a fire does it actually release the new seeds for growth. And so I put that into this concept of arguing because for me it was so uncomfortable to argue.

 

00;07;58;20 – 00;08;11;14

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

It felt like going through the fire like I wanted to avoided at all costs. But it really did release seeds for new growth and that growth in our relationships and understanding of one another.

 

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Dr. Mona

And why do you think it was so uncomfortable? Like, this arguing, is it that you felt like it was going to turn out a certain way, that you didn’t want it to be that way? Or was it that you just felt like that’s not what’s supposed to happen? Like, why do you think you or maybe other people have that discomfort with arguments?

 

00;08;30;06 – 00;08;54;15

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

Well, my experience is very specific to me. I actually don’t talk about it very much, but I will share. My dad and I were really close. He was like my hero, and we had a falling out when I was in college, and he passed away unexpectedly and we hadn’t spoken. We had an argument and we never argued. And so when we argued, it was like we didn’t know how to do it.

 

00;08;54;15 – 00;09;18;06

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

I did not know how to argue, and he didn’t either. And so we had words that were very, very harsh. And neither of us really knew what to do or how to recover from it. So we didn’t speak to each other and he died. And I’m so sorry, I yeah, well, that was really it was very traumatizing for me to lose him in that way, in that moment when we weren’t speaking to each other.

 

00;09;18;08 – 00;09;46;25

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

So I think that I personally was really uncomfortable with any argument because there was like this, I guess, PTSD, that something could happen and I would lose that person. So I would avoid any kind of confrontation at all because it was just connected to so much pain. And so it was just not worth it. And then thankfully again, from my daughter, my oldest daughter is the one we were talking about something.

 

00;09;46;25 – 00;10;12;06

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

We were having an argument, and I had a really strong reaction. Like I was sobbing and I don’t know what is wrong. I don’t know what is wrong with you. Like, why are you reacting like this? And I finally shared with her because I’m scared to death that somehow something will happen and our relationship will be severed. And we talked to my dad and she said that would never happen because you wouldn’t let it in.

 

00;10;12;06 – 00;10;41;19

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

The powerful. It was so powerful. I realized that, you know, in my I was very young and my dad and I had our experience, but I would never allow that to happen with my own children because I wouldn’t stop talking to them. So I think everyone has their own reasons why maybe conflict is difficult. And I think learning how to have those difficult conversations and arguments is really an important part of that message, that arguing isn’t always the worst thing.

 

00;10;41;21 – 00;11;05;12

Dr. Mona

Yeah. I mean, exactly what you said that I do agree with that. I think that there’s different traumas or, you know, reasons why that may happen. Like your reason is different than mine. Mine is that I never saw people argue in a healthy way. It was either yelling or it was either don’t talk about anything. So I never saw the conflict resolution that was healthy until I went to college, and I actually became an RA.

 

00;11;05;12 – 00;11;23;15

Dr. Mona

And in that training of being a resident assistant, you learn about conflict resolution and how to have a conversation when people are disagreeing and how to de-escalate, people who are heated, like I learned all that in my undergrad experience, but that was very valuable for human interactions in general, you know, because I just never I never knew.

 

00;11;23;27 – 00;11;40;14

Dr. Mona

And it’s so important that we do that reflection, you know, so that we can understand that, hey, never will I seek out confrontation. I think there’s a difference. There’s so much terminology here. Right? Like confrontation is like. It sounds negative, right? It sounds like, oh, you’re going to get out of each other. No, it’s I like the word disagreement.

 

00;11;40;14 – 00;12;06;11

Dr. Mona

If we’re going to say use a word here. Because yeah, sometimes you’re not going to agree with everything. And that’s the purpose of learning from each other, like you said. And with my husband, like it used to be arguing and it used to be, you know, confrontation. And then we learned to evolve into this. Agree. You know, this disagreement and discussions, you know, like, how are we going to navigate this disagreement and find a compromise or find, you know, what do we need to do to move forward?

 

00;12;06;11 – 00;12;21;06

Dr. Mona

And when you look at that terminology too, I know I labeled this episode arguing, but we really want to normalize these words that it’s not a bad word to disagree. It’s not a bad word to argue, quote unquote. And it doesn’t have to include yelling like you mentioned. Yeah.

 

00;12;21;06 – 00;12;46;27

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And I think also what happens when we do allow ourselves to have those disagreements? It’s when we can see patterns within certain relationships, like, I know with my husband, growing up, you know, very domineering father, and he had to do everything right. And any little thing, you know, he could get in trouble for fairly easily and, you know, even to the point where he had to win his tennis matches, you know, heaven forbid he didn’t win.

 

00;12;47;00 – 00;13;27;05

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And so there was a lot of fear of doing something wrong. And so if we had kind of an argument or a disagreement, his first natural reaction was to be defensive, because it was hard for him to just be okay with being wrong, because that had such heavy consequences for him growing up. Right. And so sometimes I think we, to use that word that you just did labels and kind of different terminology, like when we have a partner or a husband or wife or even our children, if they are very sensitive to any kind of criticism or feel like they have to be right all the time, I think we tend to label them in

 

00;13;27;05 – 00;13;47;25

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

a certain way and it’s like, wait, let’s really understand where is that coming from? Let me make it okay for him to be wrong, because they’re no one’s perfect, you know, and I think that, yeah, it’s really, really just everybody’s upbringing and everybody’s conditioning is so different. And for me I’m like the opposite. If I make a mistake, it’s like, oopsie.

 

00;13;47;28 – 00;14;11;05

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

You know, I’m like, oh, I just walked through the screen door in front of everybody at a party because I didn’t grow up. Like not. I didn’t grow up with a heavy hand of me having to be perfect all the time. So my reaction to making a mistake is like, oops, I’m so sorry. I, you know, it’s easier for me to say I made a mistake, but that doesn’t make me better or worse.

 

00;14;11;05 – 00;14;23;13

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

It’s just everybody has different conditioning when we have those real, honest kind of disagreements, to use the word that you’re using, we’re able to see what those patterns are and then understand them better.

 

00;14;23;15 – 00;14;42;09

Dr. Mona

And do you think that there is like, again, in just your perspective and understanding of arguing and how it can be healthy, is there a formula, if you will? I know it could be very family to family on how to argue in a fair way, like, you know, to make this be productive. Is there a way that we should approach, you know, discussions and and arguments, if you will?

 

00;14;42;12 – 00;15;08;12

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

There’s two things that come to my mind. The first is I am very aware that my words can have significant consequences. So I will never say anything that could potentially compromise somebody’s self-esteem. And that’s just something that’s really from the time my kids were even very, very little. And having to discipline them. And if they made a poor choice or something wrong, it’s like, that’s something that you did that doesn’t define who you are.

 

00;15;08;14 – 00;15;09;09

Dr. Mona

 

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Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And so that for me it’s like recognizing your words and not allowing them to compromise someone’s self-esteem. And the second thing is timing. I think especially in parenting, sometimes we feel that we have to be reacting instantly to something. And in that moment the person if they have escalated emotions, they’re not going to be able to receive the information because they’re very emotional.

 

00;15;31;26 – 00;15;55;27

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

So I think if we take responsibility and saying, okay, is this something that needs to be addressed in this moment, or is it going to be better for both of us? Does it serve both of us to take a breath and just remove myself from the situation, and then come back and talk about it when we are a little bit more calm and we can actually have a good discourse, rather than argue.

 

00;15;56;06 – 00;16;14;21

Dr. Mona

I love that because, you know, a lot of my listeners vary in age, but most of them have smaller children, and I love having discussions about parenting topics and family, you know, topics like we are. Because like you said, it goes into those years, right? This is the concept of giving space for tantrums, if you will, in the toddler ages.

 

00;16;14;21 – 00;16;37;21

Dr. Mona

And, you know, not always trying to fix things. It’s so important. And I resonate so much with that, having a, you know, two and a half year old at the time of this recording. And I know you have teenage children, it’s the concepts are similar. Right. For sure that we have to give some space and not try to fix and it’s okay for them to feel, but you’re not trying to in that moment saying you should be doing this or this is how it is, and belittling them.

 

00;16;37;21 – 00;16;59;00

Dr. Mona

And like you said, self-esteem in that moment, right? Or ever. I love what you said about that. And it kind of goes back to what you said earlier about that toothpaste analogy, right? Like once you squeeze out the toothpaste, you can’t go back in. So once you say something to someone, like, words matter, you know, and then if you’re attacking their self-esteem or even if it’s something that you didn’t really mean, like being more cognizant of that.

 

00;16;59;00 – 00;17;18;09

Dr. Mona

And I think all of us listening, all of you listening, can probably think about conversations you’ve had with loved ones, people the most closest to you, I can tell, like even with my own husband, like things that we said to each other in the heat of the moment, that wasn’t fair. And, you know, we look back and we’re like, we apologize to each other and say, look, like I said this to you.

 

00;17;18;15 – 00;17;29;17

Dr. Mona

And that was actually very hurtful and vice versa. And I think that also helps with the future arguments that we have, you know, like recognizing that we made mistakes, like you said earlier in the episode, too.

 

00;17;29;19 – 00;17;54;04

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

Yeah. The other thing that I was just thinking about, it is in training that I’ve done really, really early in my career that was kind of considered sales training. Really just people in relationship building. There was a something that was taught to me that I’ve shared with other people and outside of business, to take it outside of business and to bring it into the family dynamic and that is it says feel, felt, found.

 

00;17;54;07 – 00;18;16;22

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

So when somebody is really going through something and it’s feeling argumentative and really trying your hardest to understand how they feel, what their perspective is, even if you don’t agree with it, if you can, you know, get yourself to the place where you can understand how they feel and then share with them. If you’ve ever felt the same, you know I understand how you feel.

 

00;18;16;22 – 00;18;41;12

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And when I was four years old, I can remember feeling the same way that it felt really unfair that whatever. But what I found is that, you know, my mom really was trying to do the right thing by me. And so saying that at whatever age I understand how you feel, I felt the same way. But what I found, it puts you on an even playing ground, and it can defuze a heated moment.

 

00;18;41;15 – 00;19;01;08

Dr. Mona

Yeah. And diffuse that moment. And then come back with it where obviously, because I think another misconception is that people feel like you’ll have it, and then that argument or disagreement won’t happen ever again. I mean, that’s not it may happen again. Correct. Like you’re going to have arguments maybe, or disagreements about different things or similar things. And it doesn’t mean it’s just about process and working together.

 

00;19;01;11 – 00;19;19;15

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

Yeah. And I think it boils down to one of the things I teach this thing called the ten greatest gifts, one of the greatest gifts is to honor and value differences in others. And so that means not just honor and value differences in the way that we love or whatever. It’s honor and value what we feel about something.

 

00;19;19;15 – 00;19;31;07

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And if somebody has a completely different perspective, that that’s their vantage point, that’s their perspective, their reality, and just understand that rather than judge it.

 

00;19;31;09 – 00;19;57;25

Dr. Mona

I admit it truly that I strive so hard to do a better job of that, you know? And I think that’s part of why I love these episodes where I can really talk about parenting, relationships and self-growth. Right? Really recognizing, like, maybe I could be better at this in my job. Maybe I could be better at this with my relationships with the loved ones in my life, because it not only makes everyone feel better about the relationship, but it also makes me feel better that there’s some process here right?

 

00;19;57;25 – 00;20;12;22

Dr. Mona

I mean, part of being a human being and part of being an adult is learning how to be better. Like, we’re always growing. And I just love these conversations with you, Lynda, because I feel like you also have that desire to continue to grow, whether it be personally or with relationships. So thank you so much.

 

00;20;12;24 – 00;20;18;15

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

Oh, always. I mean that is the journey right? Yeah. About that and that. Exactly yeah I agree.

 

00;20;18;18 – 00;20;32;16

Dr. Mona

Oh and is there anything else you want to add to this? I mean I think we’ve gotten through, you know why the disagreements can be healthy. What families can learn from these disagreements. And you know how to argue in a fair way. Is there anything that you would want to add? I think that this is such an amazing conversation that we’ve had.

 

00;20;32;19 – 00;20;53;08

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

Oh thank you. I think the only thing that I would add is always ask yourself within every relationship, especially your family, you know, and children is what’s my desired outcome? I it’s one of the questions that I had when I’m doing coaching. And, you know, working with a lot of women is getting them in the habit to say, what is my desired outcome?

 

00;20;53;15 – 00;21;16;26

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And it’s usually not to win a fight that’s not the desired outcome is to win. The desired outcome is to understand and to move forward and to learn and to grow and to have a really rewarding, enriching relationship with our husband, kids, whatever. So what is my desired outcome? How important is this like what I’m devoting this energy to?

 

00;21;16;26 – 00;21;36;25

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And I can guide and navigate how the conversation and how the disagreement, if I’m staying connected to my desired outcome all the time and that desired outcome is an enriched relationship, then that is going to really help with the length, the energy, the tone, the body language, all of it.

 

00;21;37;06 – 00;21;54;08

Dr. Mona

I love it, and I love how you focus on that big picture goal versus like the nitty gritty of, you know, what people, I think tend to focus on in relationships, communication and parenting? I don’t invite people onto my podcast a lot. Again, but I love inviting people who share this sort of parent, like I said, parenting mantras.

 

00;21;54;08 – 00;22;16;25

Dr. Mona

But these are philosophies and mantras that not only help, like I said in parenting, but like I said, in relationships and self-growth. So thank you so much for joining me. I always like to ask my guests at the end, you know, of a parenting low and then a parenting high just to learn more about you and kind of, again, spread that sort of positivity and also that real reality of, you know, the ups and downs of parenthood will be one of your parenting lows.

 

00;22;16;27 – 00;22;17;11

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

Well, my.

 

00;22;17;11 – 00;22;17;29

Dr. Mona

Parenting low.

 

00;22;17;29 – 00;22;40;20

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

My daughter, my daughter Morgan would tell you, I think she was about five years old. And, you know, I’m just like in this mad love of being still a, you know, parent with the two young girls and my daughter Morgan. I don’t know why she was upset. And I was giving her a bath, and she told me she was going to go live with Tyler, who lived next door, her body next door, that she wanted to go live with them.

 

00;22;40;23 – 00;22;59;13

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And I had the baby soap in my hand, and I literally squirted it in her mouth like, oh no. Yes, wash your mouth out with soap that I was a little girl and it was, you know, harmless. Nothing happened to her. But it was this reflex. It was so wrong. It was such a wrong reflex. What?

 

00;22;59;15 – 00;23;12;00

Dr. Mona

Did I tell you something? I’m so glad that you’re sharing this. Because I talk with my parent friends all the time about these sort of things that happened from whether it happened from our childhood or whatever, and then we don’t talk about it and normalize. And of course, you didn’t do it again, right?

 

00;23;12;05 – 00;23;29;27

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

No, no. Again. And it was like it was. And it was so pathetic because it was obviously coming from my deep rooted fear of my daughter. Yes. Leaving me. Yeah. I’m five years old. I couldn’t process it was just a she was mad at something. Maybe I didn’t give her ice cream, I don’t know, it was like some little thing.

 

00;23;29;27 – 00;23;33;06

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And she decided she was going to move.

 

00;23;33;08 – 00;23;36;18

Dr. Mona

I love it. And what would be a high, a parenting high.

 

00;23;36;21 – 00;23;59;19

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

A parenting high, I think is when my daughter was turning 25, she’ll be 28 in July. But she called me and said, for my 25th birthday, I just want to have a girls trip with you and Shelby. What do you think? And with like 24 hours later, there was 72 hours later, we were on a plane, to Cabo, and I got to take her and her sister, and we had it.

 

00;23;59;19 – 00;24;07;25

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

And it was just the idea that that’s what she wanted to do was to spend time with her family. And it really that was a high.

 

00;24;07;28 – 00;24;22;26

Dr. Mona

Oh, that is I mean, I have a young child, but that is like the dream like that my child wants to spend time with me. As they get older, into that young adult, you know, older adult years like that is so awesome. Oh, Lynda, you’re just such a joy to talk to this whole time.

 

00;24;22;27 – 00;24;36;08

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

That’s what I would share for anybody. Anyone who’s got children that are under the age of ten, keep focused on what your desired outcome is with them because it’s so much there’s so much to look forward to.

 

00;24;36;22 – 00;24;54;10

Dr. Mona

I love it. And again, I love having so many different guests on my podcast. But what I really love is when I can get parents of children who are older because I feel like when I do this, ups and downs like to get the wisdom from people who have done this, you know, who have older children. You know, I’m a mother of a young child.

 

00;24;54;10 – 00;25;06;24

Dr. Mona

And so I just really I love hearing these ups and downs. So thank you so much for sharing that today. And where can people find you? Obviously social media website, things like that, to learn more about you and your programs and services.

 

00;25;06;26 – 00;25;28;10

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

It’s pretty much just my name, Lynda Cormier, whether it’s my personal website or Instagram or Facebook. I love hearing from people and I’m at a stage in my career. Luckily that I have I get to work, like with my nonprofit, and so some of it’s business, but a lot of it is just kind of mentoring as well. So I love hearing from people and I always reply, so.

 

00;25;28;12 – 00;25;45;27

Dr. Mona

Oh, thank you. And I’m going to be linking all her resources, meaning where you can find Lynda, on my show notes. And if you love this episode, make sure you share it on your social media Instagram stories. Tag us and also make sure you rate and review this episode. And thanks again, Lynda, for joining me today.

 

00;25;46;00 – 00;25;50;13

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

Thank you. I look forward to maybe being on again. I really enjoyed having these conversations.

 

00;25;50;14 – 00;25;52;03

Dr. Mona

Yeah. Me too. Have a great.

 

00;25;52;03 – 00;25;53;16

Lynda Cormier-Hanser

Day. Thank you.

 

00;25;53;17 – 00;26;09;09

Dr. Mona

Thank you for tuning in for this week’s episode. As always, please leave a review. Share this episode with a friend, share it on your social media. Make sure to follow me at PedsDocTalk on Instagram and subscribe to my YouTube channel, PedsDocTalk TV. We’ll talk to you soon.