On this episode, I welcome Jelani Memory. He is an author, father, and owner of A Kids Book About. A publishing company geared towards having those difficult conversations with your children.

Jelani and I speak about how parents can begin the conversation around difficult topics, some of the barriers he sees when starting these conversations, and we discuss the importance of having these conversations with our children.

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Dr. Mona

Hey, everyone, welcome to the PedsDocTalk podcast. I’m your host, Doctor Mona, where each week I hope to educate and inspire you in your journey through parenthood with information on your most common concerns as a parent and interviews with fellow parents and experts in the field. My hope is you leave each week feeling more educated, confident and empowered in the decisions you make for your child.

 

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Dr. Mona

Hello and welcome to this week’s episode. I have a very special guest today. It is Jelani Memory. He is a father, author and founder of a kids book about which is a publishing company for books for children regarding topics that we as parents may have some difficulties speaking to children about and before I introduce him and welcome him, I do want to briefly talk about their mission and a kid’s book about if you go to their website, they talk about making kids books that matter.

 

00;01;06;22 – 00;01;26;11

Dr. Mona

There are no dragons, silly bears, or cute tales about princesses, only the challenging, empowering, and important topics that kids experience every day. Kids lives are complicated, and our mission is to help kids and their grownups have honest conversations about things that matter. Jelani, thank you so much for joining us.

 

00;01;26;14 – 00;01;38;20

Jelani Memory

Oh, it’s my pleasure. It’s been such a privilege to get to start this company and make these books, and I can tell you, the conversations that I’ve been having because of them have just been tremendous. So thank you.

 

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Dr. Mona

No, thank you. And I know you obviously created this, this company. And obviously you were one of the first authors of the first book, a kids book about racism, correct?

 

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Jelani Memory

Yeah. That’s. Yes. Oh go.

 

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Dr. Mona

Ahead. Yes. I know with, the timing of what’s going on in our world right now. We’re recording this episode, obviously with the Black Lives movement and the killing of George Floyd. And obviously I’m sure these books are becoming even more needed. They always have been. But I know you’ve been very busy speaking to many different people about your mission and, you know, the love that you’re trying to share in this world.

 

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Dr. Mona

So I really appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule.

 

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Jelani Memory

Yeah. No, truly. My pleasure. And again, I it’s it’s humbling and it’s a total privilege to get to have a platform to, share with grown ups, parents, doctors, therapists, social workers, you name it. And, and encourage more important conversations with the kids in their lives.

 

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Dr. Mona

What inspired you to become an author and create this company? A kid’s book about.

 

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Jelani Memory

You know, my inspiration was my kids. And yet the inspiration was not to become an author, was not to start a company. It was to write a book just for my six kids on a topic that I thought was important, and one that we were actually already having a conversation about, which is racism. So in 2018, I wrote it in a week, and I designed it another week and printed a single copy that was designed really, truly, just for my own children.

 

00;03;11;18 – 00;03;33;22

Jelani Memory

I never had any ambition beyond that. And yet I find myself here today, having now formed a company around, not just my book, but a whole collection of books. And, and I think in a very important time in the world for these books to exist, not that they was an important before, but it feels all the more important now.

 

00;03;33;24 – 00;04;04;21

Jelani Memory

And if I look back at that initial inspiration and what it’s grown into, it was really about helping my kids become the happiest, healthiest that they could be as they grew into adulthood so that they, they would love those around them, that they would learn, have empathy, and accept people who are different from them and, be allies, around the topic of racism for my white kids and for my brown kids, for them to understand their experience, to have a language for it.

 

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Jelani Memory

And some way I created the book that I wish I had when I was a kid.

 

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Dr. Mona

That’s amazing. And you have how many children?

 

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Jelani Memory

Six.

 

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Dr. Mona

And ethnically or culturally, what’s your what’s your background?

 

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Jelani Memory

So half black, half white. My mom’s a mix of French, Canadian, German, you know, all the things put together. And then, you know, my dad’s black. And, so I’ve got, you know, again, two brown kids. One of them is, you know, decently fair skinned, and, another one, my daughter Ella, is the same color as I am.

 

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Jelani Memory

So go figure. And then my white kids are very white.

 

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Dr. Mona

And so what age group are your books geared towards?

 

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Jelani Memory

They’re really designed for 5 to 9 year olds. We wanted to create books that started these conversations early. And yet, were relevant for when kids started reading themselves, for when they were having experiences outside of the home, namely starting school. And then caught them before they sort of hit that tween age, age where, you know, they were on TikTok and Instagram and a lot less likely to listen to their parents or read with them at bedtime.

 

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Jelani Memory

And so we think that 5 to 9 is sort of the perfect range.

 

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Dr. Mona

And for all of you listeners, I actually have the link to their website on my show notes. And if you go visit their website, it’s not just obviously the book that Jelani wrote about racism, but they have so many other topics. So just to name a few that I am so interested in reading. Failure. Anxiety. Depression. Belonging. Feminism, cancer.

 

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Dr. Mona

Body image. Disabilities. Bullying. I think you guys just came out with one about Covid.

 

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Jelani Memory

Yeah that’s correct.

 

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Dr. Mona

Yeah, yeah. And so these are just such important topics. And speaking about these topics are so important. What is the feedback then for you know, the books and the like. Have they been receptive like good positive reception or how has it been.

 

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Jelani Memory

It has been unbelievable. I can tell you I receive stories every single day that if I, if I only ever just got one of them, it would it would be a year’s worth of. Really? Yeah. Of encouragement. And goodwill. It’s it’s tremendous the conversations that grownups are now having with their kids because of our books is really incredible.

 

00;06;26;17 – 00;06;56;20

Jelani Memory

And, parents are reaching out with, just really generous feedback, about how helpful our books have been for their families and how meaningful it was for them to either have a book that represented their kid, which is huge. Inside the book and their experience, or taught them about something that was completely new, something they had no idea about and yet knew was important, and wanted to dive in and have that conversation.

 

00;06;56;23 – 00;07;15;25

Dr. Mona

And why do you think parents may avoid having these conversations with their children about these topics? Because, again, the topics that you’re discussing are things that as a pediatrician or as a father or mother, we should be discussing. But what do you think the barriers are to parents who kind of avoid these conversations?

 

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Jelani Memory

Oh that’s easy. Fear, and sureness. You know, the worry that they are somehow going to break their kids innocence. The sureness around the right thing to say. And then I think this, you know, this pervading idea that maybe ignorance is bliss and let kids be kids as long as they can be kids.

 

00;07;38;18 – 00;08;09;18

Jelani Memory

And yet kids are thinking about these things. They have ideas about these things. They have questions. And oftentimes when they ask the adults in their life questions, you know, the the parents will say, oh, shush, we don’t talk about that. Or I’ll tell you when you’re older or you wouldn’t understand. And and I think those are all shields, against diving into those topics in a meaningful way because because they’re uncomfortable and parents try and find the escape hatch out of not having to talk about it.

 

00;08;09;21 – 00;08;30;09

Jelani Memory

And so our books, just existing become this catalyst to go just have the conversation with your kids. This book doesn’t say everything there is to say about that topic, but it does force that conversation. And then I think parents find themselves going, oh my gosh, we started this conversation and it’s not going nearly as bad as I thought it was going to go.

 

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Jelani Memory

And, and my kid is a lot more thoughtful and curious and creative and not scared. They’re not scared. Kids aren’t scared about these things. It’s really the adults.

 

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Dr. Mona

Oh, I completely agree. Because when I found your company and again, I found your company when basically about maybe six weeks ago or about a month ago when, the events of May 25th of the George Floyd happened and it just happened that I just found your Instagram account. And then I looked up your Facebook page and I was like, what is this?

 

00;08;56;15 – 00;09;14;01

Dr. Mona

How did I not know about this? Because as a pediatrician. And that’s why I really wanted you on this podcast. It’s so important that we drop our fears and understand that it is okay as adults that we don’t know everything. It’s okay if we don’t have a starting point. But we have to find that for our children.

 

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Dr. Mona

We’re also recording this episode in the middle of pride month. And, you know, that’s something that is also really important to me. Just because that starts actually younger than people may think. And how amazing would it be if children have all these questions? Because like you said, they do and they have a trusted person like their parent to go to.

 

00;09;33;27 – 00;09;51;13

Dr. Mona

So I again, the reason why I’m just so happy that this your company exists and the books that you created, exist is that we should not be fearful of these topics. This is stuff that happens and these kids are going to be looking at it in, in their little view. And we need to be the ones to be there and say, you know what?

 

00;09;51;15 – 00;10;07;08

Dr. Mona

I’m there for you. Let’s talk about it. What are your questions? Let’s let’s look it up together because, yeah, I think a lot of parents are scared. And I saw that come out with, you know, the the Black Lives movement, people were so scared that they were going to say the wrong thing or that they didn’t know where to even start.

 

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Dr. Mona

Right? They felt that maybe they were a little racist or that they were a little bit, you know, had their own microaggressions. And so they felt like, well, how how am I going to teach my child about racism if I don’t fully know about it? So your books are obviously geared towards the children, right, in terms of the terminology.

 

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Dr. Mona

But of course, the parents, when they read, do you find that a lot of parents read with their children these books, or do they just give it to their child to read themselves?

 

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Jelani Memory

That’s a great question. So we design the books to be read together. In fact, the very first page in every single one of our books says better together with an asterisk. This book is best read together, both grown up and kid, and we want to ensure that that’s the first thing that a parent or guardian isn’t just handing this book to their kid and says, oh, go learn about racism or anxiety or depression, that they are entering into that with them together.

 

00;10;56;22 – 00;11;18;25

Jelani Memory

And what we find is that third thing existing in that special time with a grown up and a kid either at nighttime before bed or midday, it facilitates something that’s more than just reading something educational. It facilitates a special time, a bonding time that it doesn’t actually matter what the book says, that bonding time takes place.

 

00;11;18;27 – 00;11;36;13

Jelani Memory

But how much more if there’s something material and meaningful in terms of content. And so we want that, that adults that grown up, that parent to be along the ride with the kid and we hear from adults that that say, I had no idea some of the stuff from the book. And thank you so much. This was so helpful.

 

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Jelani Memory

And then in a lot of ways, sometimes those grown ups in those kids are starting in the same place with the same terminology and the same knowledge around a subject. But of course, the adult has more experiences to pull from, and now they have other places where they can pull in ideas, and have that conversation with kids.

 

00;11;53;19 – 00;12;07;21

Jelani Memory

And it’s I just can’t tell you how important it is that that be it together experience, so that kids aren’t left to themselves to to not have a conversation because it’s all about that conversation that takes place afterwards.

 

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Dr. Mona

Oh, absolutely. And I am, you know, if you follow my Instagram, I am so big on reading in general. From a young age, like, obviously these books, not so much for your, you know, two one year old, but how awesome to basically bring this into the home and parents should be reading to their children. It’s one thing that’s so important.

 

00;12;23;24 – 00;12;42;03

Dr. Mona

And you, like you said, I love I love that you’re using that wind down routine at home or whatever it is to say, hey, I mean, and it also, like I said earlier, that it also may be easier for parents who don’t know how to approach those conversations. Now to have a medium, the book to start to start that catalyst, like you said, of conversation.

 

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Dr. Mona

So obviously there are so many books that you have, as part of your company. But I wanted to kind of talk about two of them, the racism, the book, the kids book about racism and the kids book about disabilities. So when speaking about racism, where should a parent begin? And if you can give me some, you know, just a little teaser to that book so that parents who are listening can, know what to expect if they buy that book.

 

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Jelani Memory

Yeah, sure. I’ll start with the book teaser. My book really tackles, a basic definition around what racism is. And, and sort of a proof point, if you will, that it exists. And I know that might sound like an incredibly low bar, but I think oftentimes kids will be in a place of going peer surprise.

 

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Jelani Memory

I can’t believe such a thing exists. Right. And having a framework to just understand it. And now they have questions after they sort of get in that place for parents with kids of color, not as hard, right? Oftentimes they’ll be in a place where they’ve already experienced it. But, you know, somehow, some way, even I was writing that book for my kids.

 

00;13;45;28 – 00;14;08;29

Jelani Memory

I was thinking sort of beyond them for the average Midwest white kid, white parents, white school, you know, white sports team who just wasn’t ever going to bump up against that topic in a direct way that, that there was going to be some need to just sort of go, here’s the basic place to start with it. And so it’s designed in that way.

 

00;14;08;29 – 00;14;32;05

Jelani Memory

It’s, you don’t have to be super woke to, to dive in, read it. It’s meant to be really basic, in terms of how to start that conversation. I actually give the same annoying advice every time, which is just decide to start it. Just just do it. You won’t say all the right things. You won’t, have all the conversation all at once.

 

00;14;32;08 – 00;14;56;17

Jelani Memory

You might say something really stupid or wrong or, dare I say, racist. I but I fundamentally believe that the biggest barrier to kids learning and talking about racism, and growing in a anti-racist attitude and behavior and lifestyle is is those adults in their lives who become gatekeepers and keep them away from actually ever learning about it because of their fear, because of their insurance.

 

00;14;56;20 – 00;15;14;17

Jelani Memory

And so my advice to parents is just go, just start it, start somewhere. And once you opened up that box or that door, your kids will start to ask you all sorts of questions because now they have the permission to continue to talk about it. And that puts the parents in the place where they need to start going to find resources.

 

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Jelani Memory

They need to start educating themselves. They need to start finding what their own biases are. But I don’t want parents to wait until they figure out all those biases, till they read all those books. And now they’re kids seven, eight, nine, ten, 11. They’ve started college and they’re finally ready to wade in to go. Well, you know, we’d love to talk about racism now because I finally got my graduate degree.

 

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Jelani Memory

It’s like, it’s just too late. Yeah. And so I encourage every parent to start where they feel best if they feel like it’s important. And hopefully now more than ever, it feels really important.

 

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Dr. Mona

Oh, absolutely. And when you obviously, you that’s the only book of the, of the company that you personally wrote right. So far.

 

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Jelani Memory

Correct. Yeah.

 

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Dr. Mona

So what in terms for you, did you did it come from personal experience as well when you wrote that book?

 

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Jelani Memory

Absolutely. You know, we were having, our youngest son at the time, my wife and I, and I knew, you know, she’s white. I’m, I’m half black. And he was just going to be fair skinned no matter what. Right? Just that the mix of the genes and I, as having a white mom and a black dad, have always tried.

 

00;16;24;01 – 00;16;43;26

Jelani Memory

I’ve had to explain myself racially. I am in a lot of ways racially ambiguous. So it’s like this, you know, what are you where are you from? You know, and I’ve got this really African name, my full names and Comanche Okie Jilani memory. Yeah. I was born in Portland, Oregon. So it creates a lot of confusion for especially white people.

 

00;16;43;28 – 00;17;09;07

Jelani Memory

And I knew my son Solomon would have the same thing, that as he grew up, he was going to have to explain his olive complexion. And he was always going to be identify by differently by different individuals in his life. And the book was, in a way, me telling me, sharing my experience and the discomfort around that as a way so that he he would have a story that he could start with that.

 

00;17;09;07 – 00;17;27;06

Jelani Memory

Explain that, because I know that none of that was ever explained to me as a kid and becoming an adult. It was the first time that I had started to see and hear other stories like mine, where folks never felt like they quite fit, or they talked right, or they dressed right, or they had the they were dark enough or light enough.

 

00;17;27;06 – 00;17;40;26

Jelani Memory

It just the all those things mixed in there. And that’s really unique to my experience. And I think other folks who are mixed race, especially in America and, and I wanted him to have a tool that that was going to be useful for him as he grew up.

 

00;17;40;28 – 00;18;10;10

Dr. Mona

Oh, I wish, I wish we had this tool girl growing up also. I mean, I’m Indian-American. Growing up in Southern California, which was, you know, it was a very diverse, environment. We obviously had a lot a huge, South Asian and Asian and a melting pot, if you will. But of course, we we dealt with those same issues and the, the going, going to school and people making fun of our food and people calling us awful names and, you know, saying that we smell like curry and all this awful microaggressions.

 

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Dr. Mona

Racial racist. Yeah. And when you grow up as a kid, you go to your parent and you’re like, they my, my mom and dad were immigrants. I, they didn’t know how to speak to me about it. They were like, sure. Yeah. Even even though they were getting racially attacked, they would say, well, we love you. You know, it’s okay, but it’s it’s hard, you know?

 

00;18;27;17 – 00;18;43;10

Dr. Mona

And I love that you created this company and this book because these conversations have been happening for generations with parents and their children. And even my own parents didn’t know how to speak to me about it. So I had to learn myself, you know? And yeah, that is okay. You can learn. But it’s so great that we’re starting early.

 

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Dr. Mona

And, I do want to speak about the disabilities book. I know you didn’t write that, but, obviously, did you have any insight on how you approach that as well, similar to the racism conversations?

 

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Jelani Memory

Yeah. So, you know, well, first, the bit about how we make our books, we were an unusual publisher in that I don’t we don’t pretend everybody’s a, an amazing writer who can just go to a cabin for six months and come up with the perfect manuscript, and then we just, you know, birth a book which, weirdly, is actually the most of the publishing industry.

 

00;19;11;28 – 00;19;32;14

Jelani Memory

They spend months and months and months, doing that. We actually write all of our books in a single day. We bring in an author and we spend five hours together. Our ability as a company is narrative structure, meeting kids where they’re at, being brave enough to push the envelope on what you can say to a kid.

 

00;19;32;16 – 00;19;57;18

Jelani Memory

And then asking questions like seven year olds ask and trying to structure that, that narrative around giving them really honest answers. And so when we bring in an author, they bring their stories, their experience, their wisdom, their anecdotes, and often a life lived experience that, you know, represents decades. Sometimes there’s education involved, sometimes there’s not, so for our author, Christy Napper, I could speak about disabilities.

 

00;19;57;20 – 00;20;18;22

Jelani Memory

She’s incredible. She’s a sixth grade teacher. She’s been wheelchair bound her entire life. And what was great is, I don’t want to say I have a ton of experience with individuals with disabilities. So I got to come from a place that I think most kids are, which is I have all sorts of questions, and we create this environment where that’s safe to do.

 

00;20;18;24 – 00;20;50;03

Jelani Memory

And I can tell you as we work through her book, I just kept finding myself astounded again and again how much her experience was like mine. As a person with disabilities, the stares that she would get, the comments, the insensitivity, you know, the microaggressions, if you will. And this sort of pleading with individuals around her and having to explain to herself to just be treated normal and and I can’t tell you how much that has influenced and affected my experience.

 

00;20;50;06 – 00;21;12;01

Jelani Memory

And, so it was a real treat and it was an educational experience for me to walk alongside her to help co-create that book. And what’s great is I got to come from a pure novices perspective and ask the questions that kids would ask. And she got to offer the thoughtful, generous, straightforward answers that her that only she could provide.

 

00;21;12;03 – 00;21;15;09

Jelani Memory

And, and I think we came up with a really tremendous book.

 

00;21;15;12 – 00;21;31;06

Dr. Mona

Oh. That’s amazing. No, I, thank you so much for, alluding to how you guys find your authors, because, again, I went through the website. So it’s really people who just have a passion for that topic, maybe personal awareness of that topic, who you guys find and speak to about, in terms of writing that book, correct?

 

00;21;31;08 – 00;21;51;14

Jelani Memory

Yeah. And for me, the criteria is simple. What’s the one thing that you’re uniquely qualified to write about or talk about, that you would want to pass on to the next generation? And it turns out everybody maybe has one of those things. Very few people have two of those things. And I don’t know if anybody has three of those things.

 

00;21;51;14 – 00;22;11;14

Jelani Memory

Right. It tends to be something that’s so core to you that, you know, for you, if I asked you to get up and give a speech with five minutes notice, what would you talk about? You would talk about something so close to you that you could just do on autopilot. So that’s what we do with our authors. We have them bring themselves in and they are the avatar for that subject.

 

00;22;11;16 – 00;22;29;10

Dr. Mona

Oh that’s awesome. I am so grateful to have you join us, because I, I actually have two of the books on the way. I have the one about cancer and the one about disabilities. It’s on its way. I’m so excited. The racism one when I tried to order was actually, I think yeah, I think you guys are still maybe printing some, but I’m on it.

 

00;22;29;10 – 00;22;45;00

Dr. Mona

I’m going to get that one because the whole collection looks amazing. What would be your final message for everyone who’s listening in regards to approaching these topics or just in general? You have you have this platform here that I just am so grateful that you’re able to join me for.

 

00;22;45;02 – 00;23;07;02

Jelani Memory

Yeah. You know, I, I would encourage parents to, you know, have those conversations that feel like they’re in your sweet spot and have them early and maybe earlier than you think. Not just assuming that your kids will somehow absorb those things via osmosis, because once you open up that dialog, you’ll find your kids have a lot more thoughts about those things and you otherwise would have believed.

 

00;23;07;04 – 00;23;29;02

Jelani Memory

And then for those things that feel like you’re like, I don’t know what to say about that, whether that be issues like anxiety or, or, you know, disabilities, or even racism, you know, snag one of our books. Hopefully it helps start that conversation. I don’t think our books are the only way to start those conversations. They’re just intentionally designed as a vehicle to do that.

 

00;23;29;02 – 00;24;01;10

Jelani Memory

And then, you know, know that it gets easier. It might be really uncomfortable to start it. You might sort of, you know, catch your breath a little bit with some of the words in the books or around the conversations or things your kids say, but it gets easier and better, and you get more and more comfortable, and you find that you’re actually able to live in the space that your kids live in, which is curiosity, which is wonder, which is, not weighed down by all the baggage of the right way to say things or to ask a question.

 

00;24;01;13 – 00;24;31;16

Jelani Memory

But this desire for first sort of growth and knowledge, and I hope that our 19 books turn into 200, turn into a thousand, and that we get to continue to tell more stories from underrepresented people, more people of color, from people with different abilities, different genders, and help reflect more of the stories that exist that are out there than just, you know, the ones about dragons and bears and princesses.

 

00;24;31;19 – 00;24;51;04

Dr. Mona

I will always be supporting your company. I hope you know that it is so needed. And I like I said, I cannot wait to get those books on on in my hands. I already know, just based on looking at your website and following you guys now, I am just so again grateful for you coming on, but just for what you’re doing in this world, right?

 

00;24;51;06 – 00;25;09;01

Dr. Mona

You know, you talk about you getting people on, on, you know, on your company that have a passion like, obviously you are the leader of that passion. And it goes, I can just clearly see that in this conversation. So I cannot express enough gratitude for taking your life and your time to do this for the future generation.

 

00;25;09;04 – 00;25;28;05

Dr. Mona

Because as a pediatrician, it’s it really is something that can be started so early. And I completely agree. When you say that parents are scared and they think that their children are going to lose their innocence, but they’re not, they have these questions, like we said, and you’re meeting them at their developmental age that that they can do this.

 

00;25;28;05 – 00;25;32;23

Dr. Mona

So I sincerely and sincerely appreciate you for for doing what you do.

 

00;25;32;25 – 00;25;57;21

Jelani Memory

Well thank you. That’s that’s really kind of generous of you to say. And, you know, I’m first and foremost a dad and I think maybe second and entrepreneur and, I will always in some way think about my kids first and what I want for them. And, you know, now I and think and believe just like every other parent does, that I want my kids to have more than I had and to be better than I am when they’re my age.

 

00;25;57;21 – 00;26;06;08

Jelani Memory

And and I hope these books help do that. Help live out that mission for for parents to, to help their kids become more and stand on their shoulders.

 

00;26;06;10 – 00;26;22;24

Dr. Mona

And I know your company will do great because it’s coming out of a place of love. So you can never go wrong with that. So I really appreciate it. And for everyone, I’m going to be attaching the link to their website to purchase books and also just, adding their handle on Instagram so that you can follow them along.

 

00;26;22;27 – 00;26;31;07

Dr. Mona

And yes, definitely check them out. And I’m going to when I get the book, I’m going to do an official review of it. But I can’t wait to check it out. Thank you again.

 

00;26;31;09 – 00;26;32;12

Jelani Memory

It’s my pleasure.

 

00;26;32;14 – 00;26;51;06

Dr. Mona

Thank you for tuning in for this week’s episode. I hope you guys enjoyed it. As always, please leave a review, share it with a friend, comment on my social media, and if you’re not already, follow me at PedsDocTalk on Instagram. I love doing this for all of you. Have a great rest of your week. Take care.

 

00;26;51;07 – 00;26;52;02

Dr. Mona

Talk to you soon!