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The Follow-Up: Making Pumping Work at Work
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Returning to work while breastfeeding? You’re not alone—and you don’t have to figure it out on your own either.
In this episode, we break down the essentials of pumping and transitioning back to work with your feeding goals intact. Whether you’re just starting to think about pumping or already mapping out a return-to-work plan, this episode covers what you need to know to make it work at work—with less stress and more support.
We discuss:
🍼 Your legal rights to pump at work (hint: it’s not an “accommodation”)
🧾 What to talk to your employer and HR about before returning
👜 A practical packing + pumping checklist for the workday
🕒 How much time to block off (spoiler: 30-minute breaks are ideal!)
🧊 Storage, cleaning, and coolers—figuring out logistics for any job site
💡 When and how to start pumping before you return to work
💞 Tips for building a freezer stash without spiraling into oversupply
🧠 Encouragement for the emotional side—because this transition is a lot
Most importantly? We bust the myth that it’s “all or nothing.” If you need to supplement with formula, that’s okay—and you can absolutely still nurse at home and pump what you can. Flexibility is not failure.
Whether you’re planning ahead or feeling overwhelmed, this episode will leave you feeling seen, supported, and equipped for the next step in your breastfeeding journey.
🎧 Tune in and share with another working parent who needs this pep talk!
00;00;00;02 – 00;00;19;19
Dr. Mona
Hey there. It’s me, Doctor Mona, your pediatrician and mom friend. And this is The Follow-Up. Where we revisit an old episode in less time than it takes to clean all the nooks and crannies of your favorite pump. You know the struggle. Today we’re revisiting an episode about pumping and going back to work with Melissa Guerriero at Pump.
00;00;19;19 – 00;00;43;20
Dr. Mona
Underscore, mama underscore pump to break down everything you need to know about pumping going back to work, like how to advocate for your rights plan, your pumping breaks, and keep your sanity and supply in check. I personally relate to this because I was a pumping mom for Vera, and going back to work can mean supply reduction, but we discuss how to approach it with less stress and more advocacy for yourself.
00;00;43;22 – 00;01;01;01
Dr. Mona
If this episode hits home, share it with a fellow pumping parent. Download it so you can listen while multitasking or cleaning pump parts and subscribe to the show. Because that’s how we keep the milk and the podcast flowing. Let’s dive in.
00;01;01;04 – 00;01;21;09
Dr. Mona
So we are going to talk about now incorporating pumping when going back to work, which like we talked about, this is when many women decide to start incorporating pumping. So I really wanted to talk about that. In terms of when you’re starting to think about pumping and incorporating it into a workplace, what are some things that we have to think about?
00;01;21;15 – 00;01;27;10
Dr. Mona
Maybe a checklist, if you will, of what you may need, what to talk to your employer about things like that.
00;01;27;12 – 00;01;52;14
Melissa Guerriero
Sure. The first thing to know, if you’re returning to work is that in the US, it’s your legal right to pump at work. It’s not an accommodation. It’s our right to get time and space to pump. It’s actually a biological and medical necessity. So the first thing I want to encourage you to do is research the law, research the federal law or the law for your state.
00;01;52;17 – 00;02;12;28
Melissa Guerriero
And your employee handbook about what they might already have in place for breastfeeding mothers. And what you need to look up is from the US Department of Labor and Wage and our division. I want you to, you know, research that law and research what’s already in place and see if there’s already a designated space for pumping at work.
00;02;13;06 – 00;02;38;12
Melissa Guerriero
And then speak confidently with your employer, whether it’s in person, if possible, or via email, and politely and confidently state how many times you’re going to need to pump in the work day. How you envision this fitting into your schedule, where you intend to pump? Do they have a designated space? If not, you can ask for help finding that designated and suitable space.
00;02;38;14 – 00;02;54;12
Melissa Guerriero
It legally needs to be private and not a bathroom. And then if something goes wrong, I want you to feel okay meeting with your human resources department to communicate those rights and those needs upon your return to work.
00;02;54;14 – 00;03;10;16
Dr. Mona
My friend, I, you know, before I had my son, I had a lot of anxiety about this because my workplace was not actually supportive of, the physical space. And I’m in the health care field. They were like, well, we can put you in this place and we’ll figure it out. And they’re like, you know, it was actually a really big problem.
00;03;10;16 – 00;03;28;09
Dr. Mona
And I think it’s important that you understand that there are rules that you need to voice the rules. And, you know, make it very clear that there needs to be also space, but also the time to pump, like you said, like, I mean, there needs to be, hey, whether it’s every 2 to 3 hours and we’ll go over kind of what that looks like, but I need the time block or something to allow me to do this.
00;03;28;09 – 00;03;46;16
Dr. Mona
And I think, correct me if I’m wrong, but I know from talking to a lot of mothers, myself included, a lot of the stress and a lot of people’s breastfeeding journey may end before they want to because they start work, meaning they start work and they can’t meet the pumping goals, they can’t meet their deadlines at work or whatever it may be, and then they lose supply and they end.
00;03;46;16 – 00;04;05;11
Dr. Mona
And if that’s what they wanted to do, I’m fine. But if that’s not what their choice was, and it’s because of not having the access of location or the time that kills me because that’s something that we should be providing for mothers, right? I mean, that is something like you said, legally it should be allowed. So I really appreciate you setting that tone because every woman deserves that.
00;04;05;11 – 00;04;08;15
Dr. Mona
Right? If she wants that in her breastfeeding journey, for sure.
00;04;08;17 – 00;04;30;10
Melissa Guerriero
Oh, absolutely. So let’s talk about the logistics of all that work. So you’re going to need space right. So we talked about space not being a bathroom. So space to pump. You’re also going to need time to pump. So what does that look like. That looks ideal like 2 to 3 pump sessions in your average eight hour workday.
00;04;30;12 – 00;04;49;23
Melissa Guerriero
Which means you need to be real efficient during those pump breaks. If you have a second pump and pump supplies to keep it work, I always think that’s the way to go, because you don’t have to cart them between home and work and risk, forgetting some parts that you really need to pump at home and getting really stressed out.
00;04;49;26 – 00;05;13;25
Melissa Guerriero
But other than that is using those breaks. Whether you know it’s two breaks in your lunch session to efficiently pump. And that might mean finding different ways to wash your supplies at work, or to perhaps use another method to, keep your supplies safe between pumping sessions and then wash everything when you get home. That looks different for every workplace.
00;05;14;00 – 00;05;41;20
Melissa Guerriero
You might not have access to a sink. You might not have access to a fridge. So do you need to use a hard sided cooler with an ice pack? You know, working all those logistics out before you even return to work can help you more confidently tackle pumping at work once you do return. So there’s a lot of things to think about before and then once you’re at work, you can confidently pump during those sessions.
00;05;41;20 – 00;06;05;08
Melissa Guerriero
So let’s talk about those sessions. I want you to prioritize pumping. So I want you to protect your supply by prioritizing pumping, whether that means setting alarm or scheduling meetings into your accounts, into your calendar to reserve that time. And then when you’re in there pumping, look at your baby, you know, gaze at a picture of your baby.
00;06;05;08 – 00;06;27;17
Melissa Guerriero
Watch videos on your phone. It can really not only help to encourage your let down, but it helps you remember why you’re doing what you’re doing and help you feel connected to baby, and that you’re actually being productive and you’re caring for your baby when you’re not even in your baby’s presence, is actually a really cool way to bridge that gap.
00;06;27;20 – 00;06;37;25
Melissa Guerriero
And that maybe any guilt you’re feeling returning to work, knowing that you’re still doing something to benefit your baby, even though they’re not with you at the moment.
00;06;37;27 – 00;07;01;15
Dr. Mona
One question I get asked is, well, how much time should I consider allocating myself for the pumping? I guess you said you can clean the parts at home, but more so like, you know, obviously we know that a brushing session can be anywhere from 20 minutes. It can be quick, but what sort of time chunk would you recommend a mother talking to their job about in terms of, hey, can I have this sort of block of time that I could have to, you know, comfortably do this whole process that I need?
00;07;01;18 – 00;07;20;22
Melissa Guerriero
Well, well, you know, that does look different for every mom because some moms can pump more efficiently than others. But ideally, I’d like to see three half hour blocks. Yeah. Now I have worked with mothers who we make it work in two fifteens on a 30, because that is what a lot of people get in an eight hour work day.
00;07;20;24 – 00;07;59;10
Melissa Guerriero
But making it work in two 15 minute breaks and a 30 minute lunch, it’s legally you get more than that. Okay, so, now with that, they might make you clock out. And that’s something that you need to talk to your HR about. But they can’t terminate you for that. They can’t deny you that time to pump. So if you need a half an hour, mama, take a half an hour and use that time because you’re going to need to get to the room, you’re going to need to attach your pump, maybe get a good 20 minute session, and you can use some hands on massage and compression to really get that milk exiting the
00;07;59;10 – 00;08;27;11
Melissa Guerriero
breast efficiently and then to clean up afterwards, you know, fix your garments and return to the workplace. So it’s a 30 minute break, can go by really fast. And learning how to use that to pump efficiently is something that you’ll learn actually pretty quickly after doing it a few times. So if you want to do a test run at home within that same time frame before you return to work, you can really whittle that time down to make the most of that 30 minute session.
00;08;27;14 – 00;08;44;01
Dr. Mona
When do you recommend of a mother was never pumping and just if she was solely nursing, okay. And now she’s going to go back to work. Do you have an opinion or recommendation on when to start introducing pumping sessions into the picture? You know, how soon before going to work that you would kind of encourage that?
00;08;44;04 – 00;09;03;00
Melissa Guerriero
Yeah, absolutely. I suggest no less than two weeks before returning to work. Because you’re going to need to figure out what nipple your baby likes. They usually say bottle. It really comes down to the nipple. That’s the part babies interacting with. And if you’ve been to a baby store, you know that there’s a whole bunch of different kinds of bottle nipples.
00;09;03;02 – 00;09;38;21
Melissa Guerriero
So finding out what bottle nipple your baby likes and is able to take and then practicing using your pump, learning how to use your pump, and I suggest a pump at least once a day to have enough stored up for that first day or two back. So yeah, no less than two weeks. And really, after you have a baby and you get that nursing relationship all ironed out, whether there’s any, you know, oral ties or you need your Louch assessed by a professional, after you get that all ironed out, you can begin pumping.
00;09;38;24 – 00;10;04;19
Melissa Guerriero
You don’t want to like spiral and accidental oversupply, but you can pump once a day nearly from the beginning. And people think, okay, well, like, if I’m nursing, well, my milk run out. Well nurse first. Yeah, always, always nurse first. And then keep in mind that unless you’re replacing a nursing session with a pumping session, any milk output you’re looking at is left over.
00;10;04;22 – 00;10;24;24
Melissa Guerriero
So don’t freak yourself out. If you only get half an ounce or an ounce right after nursing, you should have enough milk for your baby by the next time they’re hungry. Because breast milk is like, it’s like a river and not like a pond. So you’re not slowly, I’m digging a pond. You’re asking your body for a milk.
00;10;24;24 – 00;10;45;21
Melissa Guerriero
It’s giving you milk. And then by the next time your baby is hungry, your body will produce another let down. And it’ll have enough milk to feed baby. So get those practice pumps in early. Oh, a good time of day to do it is after your first nurse of the day. Because your body makes more milk. Generally makes more milk in those early morning hours.
00;10;45;25 – 00;10;52;23
Melissa Guerriero
So if you are worried about not having enough milk, it might give you some peace of mind to do it first thing in the morning.
00;10;52;26 – 00;11;12;13
Dr. Mona
It’s a great tip. I really like that because, again, having some sort of plan to, you know, kind of get ready for that transition and practice before is so important. What are some other common hurdles that you see when you’re starting to incorporate pumping maybe, emotionally, physically, some things that you hear or maybe you know, that you’ve counseled other moms about.
00;11;12;16 – 00;11;39;29
Melissa Guerriero
So when you’re tied down to a pump, and you have a pump that is plugged into a wall, it often becomes difficult to care for baby while you’re pumping. So again, like everything, practice makes perfect and you get really good at entertaining, baby, while you pump. Even feeding baby with a bottle while you pump milk, which seems impossible at first, but with a little practice.
00;11;40;02 – 00;12;04;00
Melissa Guerriero
And I have lots of examples on my Instagram page and on my website. You can get really good at multitasking, caring for a baby. You can even burp baby while pumping. I have changed diapers while pumping. So if you’re thinking, oh no, like I’m out of commission for the next 20 minutes or 30 minutes because I’m tied to this pump practice, talk to other moms what works for them?
00;12;04;02 – 00;12;07;27
Melissa Guerriero
How are they continuing to care for their baby while pumping?
00;12;07;29 – 00;12;17;05
Dr. Mona
These are great tips. And what would you say is your biggest tip or kind of mantra as a mom goes through this transition?
00;12;17;08 – 00;12;45;12
Melissa Guerriero
Oh my goodness. Just have grace with yourself, mama. Grace with yourself and your body and your baby. There is so much that you can’t control, do what you can, you know, honor your own specific journey. And then if you do need to begin to supplement with formula, that’s okay. So a baby will generally take about an ounce to an ounce and a half for every hour you’re away from them.
00;12;45;12 – 00;13;10;01
Melissa Guerriero
So in a typical workday, breast milk fed baby will take, let’s say, 3 to 4, four ounce bottles of milk. That’s pretty typical average, for a baby going to daycare. So say you only make ten ounces, but baby needs 16oz. Some moms get really freaked out and they think, oh my gosh, I have to start formula.
00;13;10;01 – 00;13;33;12
Melissa Guerriero
And then what happens is they mentally put this upon themselves. Oh, I need to start formula. Well I’m just going to quit breastfeeding. Yeah. Altogether and switch to formula. You don’t have to. It is not all or nothing. Yeah. So I just want to leave you with the encouragement that you know if you have to start feeding formula okay.
00;13;33;14 – 00;13;47;15
Melissa Guerriero
Do it. And then nurse at home, you know pump what you can at work, supplement the rest with formula and keep on nursing at home. You can have it both ways.
00;13;47;18 – 00;14;08;28
Dr. Mona
And that’s your follow up. Just a small dose of the real, relatable and eye opening conversations we love to have here. If you smiled, nodded, or had an moment, go ahead and download, follow and share this episode with a friend. Let’s grow this village together for more everyday parenting wins and real talk. Hang out with us on Instagram at the PedsDocTalk podcast.
00;14;09;05 – 00;14;24;18
Dr. Mona
Want more? Dive into the full episode and more at PedsDocTalk.com. Because parenting is better with support. And remember, consistency is key. Humor is medicine and follow ups are everything. I’m Doctor Mona. See you next time for your next dose.
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